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Wow. I’ve had similarly frustrating conversations with people in Slovakia on this subject. I’m really curious to see where Rabbit’s conversation is headed. I’m glad you deal with this subject in such an upfront manner. I think the racism is so deeply ingrained, so institutionalized and systemic, that it’s not even recognized as racism. Luckily, there are Slovaks who are really clued in to the history and how it pertains to the present situation, but there are many who aren’t so much. You mentioned a book and an essay on Roma in one of your pieces, by Josef Koudelka and Willy Guy respectively. I’m going to have to track those down.
DUSOFT provided interesting links on post “PROBLEM OF RACE”.
KOUDELKA’s work is intense… There is new book out (2011) and several of his older Eastern Slovakia photos appear in this gallery…albeit in frustratingly small format!
But I can see point of view about chemicals,doctor bills,no car and other such related things. Here in USA my daughter just got finished with cosmetology school and she was taught to watch for lice when going to work on someones hair and if they have it they are told not to work on them. Just like grade schools here check for lice on childrens head occasionally. But here in USA most 2 parent households work and they send their kids to school even if they are sick or even off to daycare. Not too many mothers stay home anymore.We also have so many products,chemicals and doctors at our fingertips. And most households have 2 vehicles.
Right, the situation in East involves getting kids up off floor & out of houses without running water & with abusive adults… Teachers encounter much obvious disease & trauma prohibiting fundamental educational processes.
I have pondered this much in the last few days and I was wondering if this happens in the culture of Romania? And how far back does this problem exist during Communist era? During Ceausecu reign in Romania most Roma people suffered tremendously. Could that be part of it? Could people think they have entitlements because of how Slovak Government sided with Nazis for a time. Or is a long complex set of problems?
B — Good questions. I do not know history of Romania. Communist era for Roma seems to have been something of “mixed bag”…
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The teacher is overdoing it a bit. I am not sure if the comic is quoting verbatim, or using a bit of an artistic license in hyperbole.
In any case the gypsy problem is very complex.There is a small part of the minority that is fully adapted, in all reasonable aspects, including things like adhering to the same hygienic standarts, enforcing school attendance of children, responsible parenting in all, etc… Most of these families are by choice segregated from gypsy communities of “Beverly Hills” style. Many times you can trace origin of these gypsies to adoptive families, or “orphanages” (although children are not neccessarily orphans), e.g. not brought up in gypsy collectives. These people are usually well respected, and often successfull in their carreer.
However, majority of gypsy minority lives in either urban ghettos, such as well-known Lunik IX in Kosice, or in countryside ghettos all around Slovakia, although mostly in the east. These are the problematic part. Low, to no, hygiene, parents uncaring about their many children, criminality, inbreeding, impossibly huge sense of entitlement.
So these are the gypsies people have contact with – dirty, stinky flea-ridden crowd, content with living off welfare, resorting to begging (better case), petty thievery, or in some cases even violent criminality, if that money is somehow not enough. This is the kind, that you meet when a nine year old kid asks you for a coin, and if you offer a small food item (say, a croissant) instead, will look at you and ask you if you wouldnt have a cigarette rather.
Hygiene is non-existent. That is not a poverty problem, that is a cultural problem.
Take a look at this idillyc neighbourhood. Looks great, right?
The best of panel.
Until you come closer.
This is the Sídlisko ABC, Armáda, Bezpečnosť, Cigáni, – Army, Security (eg. Police), Gypsies. One of the proposed “experiments” for assimilation of the minority culture. Only, after 1989, A and B left, and more C was moved in (for free, of course) from other parts of town.
This is a part of the entitlement culture, the gypsies got used to the notion that the state will give them stuff for free, demanding things like replacing radiators they took to scrapper for booze money in the summer, or being given new housing for free when their illegally built shacks are being demolished for whatever reason, going even as far as refusing to build their own proper houses from provided materials, with provided proffesional assistance and advisory. This rubs a very bad place in majority population, who mostly indebt themselves for most of their productive life for a chance to own accomodation.
Thanks for your notes! This is why this issue has not been resolved over the past many centuries…
(I have taken liberty of placing your image links directly into the comment — hope that’s okay!)
Yes, teacher in this comic is using some hyperbole to make her case in a limited number of panels. I can’t explain everything & have you reading for 50 pages, when already this particular conversation has 10+ pages, so many times I have to paraphrase and adjust actual words for impact & meaning. Whenever possible I quote from memory, but often emphasized quotes or key concepts I have as notes from my pocket journals. (Some exceptions, such as many of Babka’s family stories, come from recorded conversations, but even then her words are mediated by my translation skills & filters of Comics medium.)
Overall meaning (& hopefully effect on readers) is as close as I can make it without having you be there in that room with us!
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